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The results of the IP Owners Survey are displayed here. Results are updated on a batch basis, so it may take a few days before your results appear.
Only survey participants who have publicly posted their answers or selected for their answers to be publicly shared will be displayed on this page.
Bonus - Additional IP Data and Excel Model Links:
- ‘Total Cost of Boat Ownership Model,’ click here for MS Excel file that allows comparison of three different boats or financing scenarios
- ‘Dollar Inflation Calculator,’ click here for HTML version, click here for XL Version (MS Excel file) model that calculates value in 2005 dollars for 1980-2004 costs/budgets/expenses/etc.
- ‘IP Model Pricing by Model Year' & ‘Total Hull Production by Model’ Data, click here for HTML version; click here for PDF version
- ‘IP Monohull Fleet Charts' click here for HTML version; click here for PDF version
- ‘IP Monohull Timeline’ click here for HTML version; click here for Scrollable XL version (MS Excel file); click here for PDF version
- ‘IP Monohull Fleet Comparison’ click here for HTML version; click here for Scrollable XL version (MS Excel file); click here for PDF version
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This page updated on: 7 April 2006. If your survey results do not appear within a few days, please click here to email Douglas Hackney.
IP
Owners Survey Results
Total IP Monohulls Produced to Date: 1,982 Current Survey Sample Set: 60
Survey % of Total IP Monohulls: 3.03%
Statistical Validity: My statistician friends tell
me that the Central Limit Theorem describes why distributions of finite
differences tend to be normally distributed. They also tell me that a sample
set of 30 or greater is statistically valid due to reasons related to the Law
of Large Numbers. If you can follow any of that, you know a lot more about
statistics than I do. For those of us non-stat-heads, the translation is
“because the survey has more than 30 respondents, the
results are statistically valid, but only for information that applies to the
entire IP Monohull fleet.”
If you are looking
for how relevant the overall survey answers are related to you or your IP,
check for data that will tell you about the overall survey sample set, such as
the % of First Time Buyers in question #1, the number of survey responses for
your model and the Weighted Average Model Age in question #2 and the number of
years of ownership in question #3.
Known issues: Note that the majority of
the survey boats were purchased used (between a minimum of 53% and 75%), so question #7 regarding the % of purchase
price to initially outfit the boat (average of 13.78%) may be
low when compared to the % required to initially outfit a new boat, which is
usually in the 20-30% range according to the IP dealers and others I have
spoken with.
As additional
survey responses are added, the totals and percentages will change to reflect
the population of the sample set.
Simply put, the
more owners that participate in the survey, the more accurate the numbers will
be.
1. How many IPs have you owned? (sample set: 82% are first time buyers, average: 1.20, median: 1.00)
0001: 1
0002: 1
0003: 2
0004: 1
0005: 1
0006: 1
0007: 1
0008: 1
0009: 1
0010: 1
0011: 1
0012: 2
0013: 1
0014: 2
0015: 1
0016: 1
0017: 2
0018: 1
0019: 1
0020: 1
0021: 2
0022: 1
0023: 1
0024: 1
0025: 1
0026: 1
0027: 1
0028: 1
0029: 2
0030: 1
0031: 2
0032: 1
0033: 1
0034: 1
0035: 1
0036: 1
0037: 2
0038: 2
0039: 1
0040: 3
0041: 1
0042: 1
0043: 1
0044: 1
0045: 1
0046: 1
0047: 1
0049: 1
0050: 1
0051: 1
0052: 2
0057: 1
0058: 1
0060: 1
2.
What model IP do you currently own? (sample set IP
model new list price average: $ 189,270 , median: $ 187,450 )
0001: IP-38
0002: 350
0003: IP 35
0004: 1992 IP 32
0005: 1996 IP40/72
0006: IP 380
0007: 380
0008: 350
0009: 380
0010: IP 29
0011: 40
0012: 1989 IP 31
0013: 38 (editor's note: references the 40 replacing the 38 below, so current may be a 40)
0014: 350
0015: 37
0016: IP 26 MKII
0017: IP 420
0018: 350
0019: 420-55
0020: IP 40
0021: IP 32
0022: 380
0023: IP 31
0024: 350
0025: IP-27
0026: IP 35
0027: IP 40
0028: 35
0029: IP 35
0030: IP 31
0031: 380
0032: IP 27
0033: IP 26
0034: IP 32
0035: IP 350
0036: 38
0037: IP 32
0038: 37
0039: IP 40
0040: 420
0041: IP-320
0042: IP-27
0043: IP 35
0044: 35
0045: 350
0046: IP 485
0047: 485
0049: 380
0050: 35
0051: 380
0052: 380
0057: 27
0058: IP 38
0060: IP 420 hull 29, 2001
3. How many years have you owned it? (sample
set average: 3.69, median: 3.00, minimum # purchased used between: 53% and 75%)
0001: just purchased Oct 2004
0002: 4
0003: 4
0004: 4
0005: 9
0006: 6
0007: 2
0008: 8
0009: 5
0010: 4
0011: 5
0012: 2
0013: 4
0014: 6
0015: 3
0016: 10
0017: 5
0018: 1
0019: 2
0020: 1
0021: 2
0022: 3
0023: 1
0024: 2
0025: 5
0026: 3
0027: <1
0028: <1
0029: 1
0030: 3
0031: 5
0032: 3
0033: 1
0034: 1
0035: 1
0036: 5
0037: 10
0038: 4
0039: 6
0040: 5
0041: 5
0042: 4
0043: 3
0044: 3
0045: 7
0046: 2
0047: <1
0049: 2
0050: 16
0051: 5
0052: 2
0057: 5
0058: 3
0060: 3
4. What were the top reasons you chose to buy an
IP?
0001:
quality and resale value
0002:
Suitability for offshore as well as coastal cruising, spacious accommodation,
rugged construction, conservative design
0003: Full
keel, quality, sheer line curve, room below, resale values hold.
0004: Build
quality. Interior space. Factory support
0005:
Quality and Resale Value
0006:
perceived quality and value. proven factual after six years of ownership.
0007: full
keel traditional trunk cabin look blue-water capable cutter rig
0008:
Seaworthiness, construction and fitting out.
0009:
Safety, comfort, low depreciation and maintenance costs
0010: It
was a respected marine surveyor's top pick when given my choices (Island
Packet, Pacific Seacraft, Morris, Bristol Channel Cutter) for a small
ocean-going boat that I could single hand (in my 70's and 80's. I am now 73).
0011:
Seaworthiness, safety, comfort, resale value
0012:
great living space, pleasant appearance, good sailing ability, very well built
0013:
Design, sailing ability, handles seas, stable.
0014: my
original purchase was made because I lived on the so.
0015:
Looks, design, interior design, ease of sail management, construction quality
0016:
Quality Reputation Design
0017:
Substantial ocean going sailboat. Reasonable cost relative to others Full keel.
Staysail rigged sloop. Interior comfort and livability. Headroom, I am 6'
3". Good systems.
0018:
Quality, blue water, go anywhere, resale
0019:
Safety
0020:
Quality seakindliness Cutter Rigged reputation retained value
0021:
Quality, reputation for seaworthiness, classic lines
0022:
Soundness Manufacturing Quality Value Retainability
Interior Volume (Lots of Storage) Full Keel / Comfort at Sea
0023:
Reputation for quality Interior space Classic design
0024:
Value, price, stability, headroom, length of beds
0025:
quality, visual impact, seaworthiness
0026:
quality good and safe rough weather sailing
0027:
Quality, safety, seakeeping ability, cabin and deck layout, appearance
0028:
interior and seakeeping. We were interested in a comfortable coastal cruiser
with passage capability
0029:
stability quality value
0030:
Construction and reputation, room below
0031:
Reliability, customer service, resale, comfort
0032:
Quality and comfort
0033:
shoal draft, durability
0034: More
room than our Cat 27 and a good stout boat for coastal cruising; plus a nice
looking hull and the reputation of IP for making sound boats.
0035:
Seaworthiness, reputation, looks, lay-out, ease in handling and quality.
0036:
Features and size for a family of four
0037:
Knowledge of IP quality of construction. Desire for space for family. Knowledge
that IP held their price well - first IP (IP27) sold for slightly more than I
had paid for it (used) 4 years earlier
0038:
strength, seakindliness, storage, sea berths, reputation of factory, IP owner's
list, shallow draft, long keel
0039:
Seaworthiness
0040:
quality of build, cruising offshore, easily handled rig with just two people,
teak and full keel
0041:
Quality and resale value
0042:
Safety, Integrity, Looks
0043:
Quality and offshore capabilities
0044:
build quality, beautiful looking boat, sailing ability
0045:
Quality, configuration, sea worthiness
0046: the
quality of workmanship.
0047: Quality of construction and systems. Anticipated resale value. Performance and comfort at sea.
0048: Coastal Cruising - draft. Construction, below deck accommodation.
0049: Solid & safe cruising boat
0050: safety, comfort
0051: Keel and rudder design, comfort and safety in moderate seas, comfort and layout below decks, Island Packet support of owners/boats after sale. Overall design and beauty.
0052: Cruising safety and comfort
0053: Safety in unexpected big seas. Liveaboard comfort for cruising. Flexible sail plan. Build quality.
0054: solid/safety built, reputation, comfort for liveaboard
0055: safety in storms and the
0056: long keeled cutter
rigged offshore yacht
0057: Safety, ease of sailing, comfort
0058: Quality and reputation
0059: Roominess, stability, and resale value.
0060: strongly built
5. What are the most significant negative
features/characteristics of your current IP?
0001:
refitting a used vessel is expensive
0002:
Engine access requires unmaking aft bunk and working in prone position for some
jobs. Single water tank
0003: teak
on deck, jib sheeting angle outboard and too wide.
0004:
Inability to sail to windward.
0005: Too
much Teak. Originally had virtually no practical Navigation Station.
0006: not
being able to get around wheel without stepping on seat.
0007:
single aluminum water and holding tank
0008:
Anchor locker, Embedded chain plates, poor pointing and much sideslipping
0009: Had
electrical trouble with first few Balmar alternator
components.
0010:
Aluminum water tank. Single water tank. Nav table too
small. Not the prettiest boat in the world - looks like she backed into a prop.
Don't like to look back at her broadside when I row ashore. The original fuel
booster pump was an intermittent (and unnecessary) problem until I (belatedly)
replaced it with a flow through Stewart Warner gem.
0011: Teak
maintenance
0012:
aluminum water tanks are attacked by chlorine and can leak, shower should not
discharge into bilge
0013: Tank
accessibility
0014:
Moving past the wheel in the cockpit, the size and capacity of the two drainage
outlets in the cockpit. I think It would have been wise to have at least two
more. The nav station is a pain; the one I had on the
32 was far better.
0015:
engine access, aluminum water tank (only one)
0016:
Pointing ability - a tradeoff that I accept
0017: I cannot
think of any!
0018: cost
0019: Have
not encountered any significant negative features to date
0020:
aluminum tankage - blinding flash of the obvious - mixing salt water and human
waste - a non starter.
0021:
Staysail boom; takes up too much room
0022: None
0023:
Steerage in reverse, Engine oil dipstick access
0024:
Difficulty working on engine, especially the impeller, having to take the bed
apart to work on engine, alum tanks that are too small
0025: too
much teak, aluminum holding tank problems
0026:
arrangement of nav station, difficult and expensive
replacement of tankage due to poor design
0027:
handling around the dock
0028:
backing
0029:
can't think of any
0030:
Light air performance, close quarter handling.
0031: not
the most beautiful sailboat design
0032: The
engine is hard to work on. It's a tight fit in the compartment. I'm in the
process of cutting in access hatches to make it a little easier. The larger
IP's seem to have much better access.
0033: weak
windward performance in light air
0034:
Aluminum tanks that can't be replaced without major cutting up of the floor,
but I haven't had to do any of that yet. My greatest maintenance gripe is the
lack of slack in wires and hoses. The teak is work but I like the look!
0035:
Ability to point- this will be our second season with the boat, and we will be
adjusting the rigging so that we may be able to sail closer to the wind.
0036: Some
hidden service problems...i.e. water tanks, wiring and plumbing is hard to
service
0037:
Access to engine. Access to replace hoses for head. Water tank - if it ever
needs replacing. Backing into dock - know it can be done but so far not
mastered this technique.
0038: none
0039:
Occasional leak at propane tank well. The cut of the bimini allows rainwater to
splash on the teak near the cockpit and then into the cockpit (Not an IP
problem). Backing up can be a chore but I am proud I got the hang of it.
0040: Long
haul potential problem with tank access
0041:
Sails on anchor
0042: The
teak is a bear! Engine accessibility
0043:
Aluminum tanks
0044:
doesn't sail well in less than 10knots, pointing ability, marina maneuvering
can be tricky
0045:
Negatives - none, have some minor irritations that are related to maintenance
and upkeep but they are not negatives with the IP Line
0046: no
room for customization at the factory
0047: Multiple tripping hazards caused by all the sheets and furling lines across the decks.
0048: Pointing ability. Need more handholds below deck. Water tank replacement.
0049: not enough time to sail her
0050: without a doubt, the crystals that form in the fresh water tank
0051: Nav station, backing in a cross wind without bowthrusters.
0052: Replacing the water and holding tanks when they start to leak
0053: Difficult to tack in light to moderate wind. Does not point as close as I would like. Too much leeway. "Wallows" in a following sea.
0054: access more storage in dead space, room for more batteries, better chart table access, better deck drainage/location of drain is wrong, too much teak on deck...just for looks
0055: Won't sail close enough in a light wind. (less than 10 knots).
0056: We
are used to proper nav stations over here [
0057:
slow, small and no private cabin
0058: Throttle lever and steering arrangement
0059: Too much plumbing, a lot of teak to maintain and poorly designed ice boxes.
0060: Slow downwind, aluminum water
tank reacts with minerals in water and forms hard particles blocking lines,
only one water tank so contamination leaves you without a reserve.
6. What are the most significant positive
features/characteristics of your current IP?
0001:
sailing characteristics and all the oohs and ahhs we receive
0002:
Easily and safely single-handed. Comfort. Manageable size. Rugged construction.
Shallow draft. Unfailing seaworthiness. Large tankage
0003:
great ocean sailing, solid
0004:
Comfort. quality
0005: They
sail well and faster than most, particularly in heavy conditions. They are safe
and comfortable
0006:
Stability, tough, gel coat after 7 seasons still has original luster. The boat
still feels like a new yacht to me.
0007:
comfort, safety
0008: seakindly, headroom, construction soundness
0009:
Safety, comfort, low depreciation and maintenance costs
0010:
Generally very well built. The unattractive stern does give her great space
below, and is a fine platform for a self-steering gear. I feel safe in her, and
plan to do a trans-Atlantic.
0011:
Retained value
0012: very
comfortable for liveaboards, great teak work, easy to
sail
0013:
Stable platform, quality builder, great interior design for size
0014: She
is a train on a track in bad following seas; below decks she has numerous
handholds and a narrow enough walkway throughout the salon for safety in a
seaway. Also the many dual systems she had on purchase saved me a ton of money
and time.
0015: very
well built with quality components
0016:
Comfort, Design
0017: The
reasons I bought the IP to begin with
0018: 1.
quality 2. capability 3. factory support 4. strong owner's group
0019: It's
attractiveness and ability to sail with a minimum number of crew
0020:
style & quality retained value, ocean going
0021:
Handling under sail, seaworthiness
0022: no
answer
0023:
Cockpit locker storage space. Interior space. Comfort under sail (less heel at
'higher' speeds). Roomy cockpit
0024: Ease
of sailing, stability and safety, full keel, interior teak and space, great
looks that everyone admires and hearing their "what a great looking boat"
0025:
Overbuilt hence very forgiving, seaworthiness, holds value, looks great,
roominess below
0026: full
keel giving good directional stability, sails well in all weather when
providing the right sail plan
0027:
Quality, comfort, roominess, sailing qualities
0028:
stable comfortable platform
0029:
quality of construction, value
0030:
Comfort, stability, looks
0031:
Reliability ,customer service, resale, comfort
0032:
Solid construction and excellent quality craftsmanship make our older IP easy
to work and worth keeping upgraded.
0033:
Robust construction; excellent attention to detail; barndoor
rudder
0034: Good
sailor, faster than others think she is, often much to their regret. Quality
hardware and construction throughout. Plenty of storage and room to stretch.
Engine is reasonably quiet.
0035: We
love our boat. I live aboard with my teenage son in the summer. Last year we
were on a mooring - it was very comfortable and user friendly. In terms of the
size of the boat - there are always three members of our family on board. When
our two older children join us, things get a little tight, but there is still
plenty of room for gear and people. We took eight folks out for a sail last
summer, everyone was comfortable. The cockpit is large and having the two seats
on the stern are wonderful.
0036:
handling, quality and support
0037:
Excellent for single handing. Versatile sail plan. Very forgiving even when
overpowered for wind conditions. FACTORY SUPPORT and knowledge.
0038:
tracks well, sails well, motors well, easy to maintain. nice looking, extremely
well designed and engineered.
0039:
Accommodations and comfort and seaworthiness
0040:
factory support, great sailing "in the groove," cutter rig, resale
value
0041: Beautiful
boat, sails well and is strong and stable
0042:
Handles the rough weather well. Quality of the boat
0043: full
keel, solid boat feel
0044:
beautiful looking boat, build quality
0045:
Quality, configuration, sea worthiness. Mostly though Tom Broome and the
superior factory support.
0046: the
solid makeup of the boat.
0047: Performance under sail. Seakindliness and comfort. Execution of raised salon, center cockpit design. Quality of fit and finish all round. Nav station. Lazarette. Engine room. Reefer and freezer (Frigoboat). Quantum sails.
0048: Aft berth still usable when offshore. More space then the 370. Ease of two handed sailing. Sea kindly.
0049: safe feeling in heavy weather
0050: comfort and feeling of safety, even in a big blow
0051: Looks and overall design. Sails very well in 7+ knots( Passes many white boats)
0052: Easy and safe to sail single handed in wide range of conditions, it sails like a dream!
0053: Lots of storage Space. Drop-down table is outstanding - seats six then folds away! Refuses to break in rough seas. Shallow draft. Full keel doesn't snag crab pots.
0054: quality of craftsmanship, use of quality materials, customer support, strength of hull and overall construction and design
0055: Safety in rough weather
0056: safety & build quality
0057: safety, bluewater sailing, ease of control/single handed. small easy to get into tight places.
0058: Stability, cabin arrangement, two heads/showers and lots of salon room.
0059: Comfortable interior plan and stability
0060: Sails and motors well in rough seas, large fuel, water and storage facilities; very stabile. beautiful woodwork
7. What % of the purchase price did you spend
to initially outfit/upgrade your current IP? (sample
set average: 13.78 , median: 12.00 )
0001:
question not included in submitted survey
0002:
question not included in submitted survey
0003: 15%
0004: 10%
The boat though was bought used and was already well equipped. Starting from
scratch, it would be more like 30% easily
0005: 25%
0006: 15%
0007: 10%
0008: 20%
0009: no
answer
0010: 20%
0011: 15%
0012: 8%
0013: 5%
0014:
about 25% of purchase price.
0015: 10%
but done over 3 years. Boat was not new
0016: 10%
0017:
About 30%
0018: 18%
0019: Boat
was bought used and completely equipped. Have not found it necessary to add any
significant items or accessories
0020: 10%
but the boat came in very good condition and well equipped
0021: 5%
0022: I
estimated that the first owner spent about 25 % of the advertised purchase
price to outfit the IP
0023: 0%
0024: 20%
0025:
bought used....came with almost everything
0026: 20%
0027:
in-process
0028: 10
0029: 20%
0030: 5%
0031: 0%
-purchased used with all the goodies already there
0032: 50%
Yes it actually says fifty percent. It was cheaper than therapy and I don't
regret a single dollar.
0033: 30
0034: Initially
very little; it was well equipped & I took a lot of auxiliary equipment
from our old boat. The first year I added a chart plotter and this second
winter, refrigeration. For a %-age, probably 2.5% including additional lines,
fenders, etc.
0035: Roughly
3% - all up grades
0036: 10
0037: Did
no upgrades at time of purchase - boat was moved from
0038: 15
0039: 20%
to 30%.
0040:
purchased used six month old boat roughly 20-25%
0041: 4%
0042: Zip
- The thing came with everything
0043: 0.5%
0044: it
was in great condition when i bought it, spent 5% of
purchase price
0045:
roughly 20% then added significant upgrades after we had owned the boat - watermaker, generator, etc.
0046: 20
0047: 10